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Date: 2010-02-04 05:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snousle.livejournal.com
The Webb Telescope is roughly one hundred times as interesting as a Moon mission.

Date: 2010-02-04 05:35 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] furr-a-bruin.livejournal.com
Think "enormous observatory on the dark side of the moon."

Date: 2010-02-04 03:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tecknow.livejournal.com
The far side of the moon is only "dark" in that we can't see it from here. It still gets as much light (and other noise) from the sun as the near side. It might be an OK place for a radio telescope, since it's shielded from terrestrial radio transmissions, but there are other problems, like dust, that space based observatories just don't have. The Webb telescoe for example, can be shielded from the earth and sun at the same time.

Date: 2010-02-04 05:15 am (UTC)
ext_173199: (Bear: Moody)
From: [identity profile] furr-a-bruin.livejournal.com
*sigh*

Where the hell is Moonbase Alpha - minus those pesky nuclear waste dumps, of course?!

Date: 2010-02-04 08:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lumberjackie-o.livejournal.com
it makes me sad that nasa is being cut so much, but i am NOT so much interested in the moon, per se.

Date: 2010-02-04 10:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] s2dbaker.livejournal.com
The NASA budget is actually increasing, it's W's mission to Mars that's being dropped for better stuff.

Date: 2010-02-04 09:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pangolin.livejournal.com
The moonbase thing is supposed to be a stepping stone to figuring out how to colonize mars. You know, in case we destroy our planet or something.

Date: 2010-02-04 12:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bearbarry.livejournal.com
Perhaps the Chinese will give us a lift in a couple of years so we can wipe the moon dust off of the flag we planted there 40 years ago. Being the first humans to arrive somewhere gets you a footnote in the history books. Doing something with it will make history. We don't have the balls as a nation to do anything truly important anymore.

Date: 2010-02-04 03:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tecknow.livejournal.com
A good case can and has been made that the Moon is not a good stepping stone to Mars. All the problems of living ins pace now with bonus gravity well?

Date: 2010-02-04 01:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sultmhoor.livejournal.com
Disappointing.

Date: 2010-02-05 12:13 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] urbear
I won't say I'm not disappointed, but I'm also not in the least surprised. I always strongly suspected that W initiated the late lamented moon program to curry favor in certain circles but never had the slightest intent of seeing it through. If the Repubs had won the election they'd almost certainly have shut it down much earlier than Obama did, and probably with less reason.

With that said, I was also never convinced that the program was a good idea. Too many elements of it seemed to be there for feel-good and showmanship; it wasn't clear to me that it would achieve its stated goals.

Date: 2010-02-05 06:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ursusarctos.livejournal.com
The political economics of this are simple.
Look at where a huge chunk of the NASA $ has historically gone.
The sunbelt benefitted in a disproportionate way. The senate was packed with senior Democrats when NASA cranked up who made sure the bacon went to TX, FL, AL, MS.
This reordering of priorities will probably see a shift to programs with a manufacturing base in what are now Democratic states IL/WA (Boeing) more CA, and less TX.
Our GOP asshats are already squealing over how Stennis Test center will lose big if Constellation is killed.

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